As we started to plan events to coincide with this year's WSJR Awards, we couldn't help but think back to last year when our party at Fra House got busted by Denton's finest before things could really even get started. However, since we love the idea of a good house party, we figured we could try it again this year as long as we were a little smarter about it. So here is what we came up with:
-- THIS FRIDAY, OCTOBER 17th starting @ 10PM we'll be co-hosting another free house party in Denton along with our friends at Stay Cool Swag School that will feature performances by:
Vega (Dj set from Alan Palomo featuring new Vega material) Schwa Damaged Goods (link fixed, its the Dallas hip hop act, NOT some bad punk band) Young Doc Gooden
As well as lots of free booze for everyone 21 and up.
-- Where in Denton will this party take place, exactly? If you want to know, simply email weshotjrparty@yahoo.com any time between now and Friday at noon. If you email us (you need not include your name or any other personal info) before the deadline, you'll recieve an email Friday afternoon in which we'll tell you the address and provide any other relevant info you might need to know.
-- Everyone is invited and there will be no guest list or anything ridiculous like that. We just wanted to make sure that we kept the address a secret for as long as we could.
Anyway, we're looking forward to seeing everyone out this Friday, and based on what we're expecting, we recommend showing up early, especially if you want some free drinks. And by the way, this is just the first phase of our plans for this year's awards celebrations, so stay tuned.
Magnetic Fields (Majestic Theater) First things first-- if you're heading to the Majestic Theater tonight, you should know that the WSJR fact check department has confirmed that there is no opening band, and that the show is supposed to start at 8pm on the dot. So be aware. Stephin Merritt and Magnetic Fields are touring in support of Distortion, their latest record, and in some ways, their new material sounds sort of like a return to what I believe is their greatest record: Holiday. The total number of people who have ever agreed with me on this is zero, but hey, most geniuses go unrecognized during their time anyway, right? I could chalk it up to nothing more than being a big fan of lo-fi bedroom synth pop a la OMD, but really-- the next time you sit down and listen to Holiday, think about the fact that it came out in 1994, and then think about how many bands the record surely had an influence on after its release. You'll realize, I think, that it is a lot more important than most people claim. The official backstory behind the latest MF release is that Merritt was influenced by shoegaze and Jesus and Mary Chain specifically (check their My Bloody Valentine inspired promo photos for further evidence), and while that is certainly true in most surface level respects, the songwriting and the shimmering fuzz found on most of the album's tracks really reminds me of some of the electro noise found on that aforementioned favorite record of mine. Of course, all of this is analysis has very little to do with what you'll hear tonight-- based on an assortment of online reviews I've read concerning the latest tour, we'll get a stripped down Magnetic Fields this evening. This is probably how most people prefer it, and although I'm looking forward to it, a part of me is just a tad disappointed.
A Place to Bury Strangers | Sian Alice Group | Red Monroe (The Loft) Shit. Thanks for scheduling this show for tonight. The one night that something even arguably better is going on. Brooklyn's A Place to Bury Strangers have been building a reputation for themselves as one of the loudest bands in existence these days, and their live shows have become fairly legendary in blogland over the past year or so. And speaking of Jesus and Mary Chain-- these guys are up to their ears in Psychocandy, but thankfully, that isn't all their up to. You'll hear quite a bit of late 80's Wax Trax in their sound, as well as some later period Primal Scream, which sort of sounds like krautrock gone metal if you haven't heard it. For those not attending Magnetic Fields, this is a highly recommended alternative. Oh, and I was able to catch Sian Alice Group twice during SXSW, and they were fantastic both times.
MON: Magnetic Fields (Majestic Theater) MON: A Place to Bury Strangers/Sian Alice Group/Red Monroe (The Loft) TUE: Kayo Dot/The Great Tyrant/Vorvadoss/Trifle Tower (Rubber Gloves) WED: Boston Spaceships feat. Robert Pollard/High Strung (the Loft) WED: Opeth/High on Fire/Baroness (House of Blues) THU: Devin the Dude/Coughee Brothaz/Bavu Blakes (Granada Theater) THU: Designer Drugs and the Party (the Loft) THU: Neil Diamond (American Airlines Center) FRI: WSJR Party (details to come) FRI: Dirty Diamond/Ribelle Scaltro/Mistress (Time Bandits) FRI: Apollo Sunshine/Colour Music (the Cavern) SAT: Wolves in the Throne Room/Nachtmystium/Lychgate (Rubber Gloves)
The frat boys are coming! The frat boys are coming! God, I hate this weekend so much that I don't even know what to say other than fuck OU AND UT. My fellow East Dallas residents, prepare for the worst (and ps, our big show announcement will come on MONDAY, mkay?)
FRIDAY
Akimbo | Resigned to Fate | First Curse (the Lounge) Akimbo are one of those bands that are decent enough when you catch them opening for a really great band (I can't remember if I saw them with Melt Banana or Lightning Bolt), but their classic rock/punk sludge isn't the best in its class, and therefore not something I would completely go out of my way for. It's not bad however, and definitely worth seeing if you live and die for this genre. I've heard local hardcore act Resigned To Fate now has an expiration date, so if you haven't seen them, drink up.
Uptown Fridays with Select (Zubar): You DO remember that this is Texas OU weekend, right? Females, if you're planning on going to Greenville tonight, please bring a weapon in your purse to protect you from date rapists. Males-- you better really be ready to bro out tonight if you think you want to get laid. Have so much fun you guys!
The Theater Fire (Lee Harvey's) Please tell me that college football fans haven't figure out where Lee Harvey's is quite yet, because I'd really like to enjoy myself outside this evening. The Theater Fire has a new album ready that we haven't exactly heard yet, but I'm pretty sure you'll get a chance to hear a lot of their new material tonight at a venue that seems to fit this band better than just about any other Dallas venue fits any other Dallas band.
Gordon and the Whale Anniversary Party (Rubber Gloves) Huge (I originally wrote "big ol'" but changed it when I realized that I sounded like Cindy Chaffin) Denton party tonight to celebrate the one year anniversary of Gordon and the Whale, featuring DJ sets from Yeah Def, It's What We Get and Empty Pockets. Circa 77 is doing some decorating, and most importantly to Denton hipsters, Austin party queen Annie Ray is doing a photo booth or whatever the fuck these people call it. Surely the place to be tonight if you want to be scene.
Deep Snapper (Cool Beans) Deep Snapper ends a three month hiatus on the roof of Cool Bean's tonight, and promises upwards of 25 songs in their set-list, a daunting number for any band. Most local bands lack the work ethic of Deep Snapper, a group who seems to release an album each fiscal quarter, and will follow the task of tonight's ridiculously long set by playing in Shreveport...tomorrow.
The Walkmen (House Of Blues) The Walkmen pulled something of a major comeback this year with the release of their latest album, thanks to a train of critical acclaim that pretty much originated with Chris over at Gorilla vs Bear. It's difficult to say exactly why this album is any better or different than previous Walkmen efforts, but hey, if you liked the Walkmen five years ago, you'll probably like them now too.
Lords | Children of the Grave | Four Days To Burn (the Lounge) Certainly the show of the weekend in my mind, but since its the last one I got around to writing about and I actually have to try and not get fired from my job, you guys can have fun picking these bands apart yourselves! I'll see you there if you're cool enough to know me! PS-- a Sabbath cover band? Do we have to?
The Roots | Gym Class Heroes | Estelle (Palladium) Gym Class Heroes, guys? Really? That's who the fuck you play with now? I'll take your 94 tour with Jon Spencer Blues Explosion and the Beastie Boys instead, please. And yeah, I know that makes me old, but you're coming of age in an era where Gym Class Heroes are popular, which makes you dumb. The worst part is that I think I know a girl who's had sex with this band. :-(
Ryan Adams and the Cardinals (Nokia) I can't tell you how little I care about this dude. Oh, and fuck Whiskeytown too, ok? I'm not impressed that you have one of their albums, ok Parker Posey? I'd rather listen to that punk band Jeff Tweedy was in during the early 80's.
Cat Power | Appaloosa (Palladium) Honestly, I'm probably the worst possible person on the WSJR staff to write about this show, because frankly, I really don't spend a lot of time thinking about or listening to Chan Marshall's music. It never really appealed to me, much like the music of her ex Bill Callahan, and the critical praise she has received has always puzzled me a bit. Other people around WSJR HQ seem to have cute little indie nerd crushes on her, and I certainly can't blame them for that, but after seeing her perform at the Granada last year, I realized that my initial suspicions about this music were pretty much true-- it strikes me as mostly safe "lifestyle" music fronted by a pretty voice. This is fine in a sense, but certainly not worth putting up with Palladium's parking fees in order to experience. I usually get verbally assaulted by people when I share this opinion, and perhaps my view is a bit off the mark since I've only seen one Cat Power show and listened to the equivalent of maybe one Cat Power album, but shit, I don't know. The stage fright. The indie celebrity boyfriends. The drinking. The erratic behavior. Dare I say that its all a bit, um, boring?
Mr. Gnome | Menkena | Mostly Bears | Les Americains (The Cavern) Mr. Gnome are apparently from Cleveland, and apparently exist in 2008, but boy oh boy, do they sound like Canadian indie rockers from 2006. This might be a little unfair since they really aren't half bad, but whatever. I guess I'm just "in a mood" today. :(
Yeah, they pretty much DID put on the best rock show I've seen in quite some time. Probably the best show Deep Ellum has seen in years. If you weren't there, well, you really missed out.
Pattern Is Movement | Mothfight | Florene (Swiss House) Pattern Is Movement are apparently not fans of critic-speak that mentions the alleged polyrhythms utilized in their complex prog-pop, though I imagine they hate the word "prog" being applied as well. Anyways, it's probably next to impossible to pull off polyrhythms when you're operating as a duo, however they still manage to make it sound as if there still an entire extended group of participants, thus adding to the music writer's confusion. The critics probably meant to say "time-signature changes," which are undoubtedly involved. There is a certain broadway quality to some of the song-writing, which is a hindrance if you hate that sort of thing, but these factors combined definitely set Pattern Is Movement apart from your average indie pop group. Monotonix | Best Fwends | Rival Gang | El Paso Hot Button (The Lounge on Elm) It will be interesting to see what Israeli rock band, The Monotonix will do in the traditional club setup tonight. I have only seen them play at the late Eighth Continent, or in somebody's living room. Their well-documented ability to transcend their surroundings, as well as their fairly straight-forward but entertaining classic rock sound, is really something you don't want to miss. To put it bluntly, they really know how to fuck shit up, and I would expect the stairs and couches of The Lounge to be fair game. I have seen every band playing tonight on numerous occasions, and if there is a single theme for this fairly diverse group of artists, it would be that the "crazy live act" description could be applied to every band here. Fortunately for you, the music tonight largely stands on its own, even minus the novelty factor.
Straight edge hardcore seems like it might be a lonely musical existence in Amsterdam, but Vitamin X play just that. There is a rich history of punk and hardcore in The Netherlands (groups like Rat Patrol or The EX), but Vitamin X sound like your standard American straight edge group. No Man's Slave has one of the funniest, and longest Myspace URL's I've seen in a few months.
It's Unamerican To Be Sad | Terry Sims/Mr. Dale and JTMudd (The Cavern) It's Unamerican To Be Sad evolved out of another DFW area group called The Black Lights, and though they sound similar, IUTBS are even more melodramatic, which I didn't think was possible.
Hey, guess what? WSJR has made some new friends. Over the past couple of weeks, we've been talking with some great people from two other Texas music blogs that are making some noise in their respective cities. The first is Austin Sound, a website that covers a wide variety of independent music in Austin and Texas at large, and the second is Skyline, a Houston based blog that covers just about everything you could imagine going on down in Houston.
Anyway, the three of us got to talking, and we decided that it might be interesting to do a monthly article exchange. Each month, we'll be taking turns posting an article from one another's sites, just to give our readers an idea of what is going on in various Texas locales. This month, we're featuring a Skyline review of an album by Houston's excellent Balaclavas, while Austin Sound will post a few of our "We Hate Your New Band Too" features, and Skyline will post an article from Austin Sound. Take a look below, and be sure to check out the other sites. -- SR
REVIEW: BALACLAVAS : INFERNO The second circle of hell is reserved for the souls of those who, when in the flesh, could not tamp down their desire for the flesh of others. The lusty. Those who hid away the love all hearts are meant to experience for the quick kill; the fleeting romance; the adultery; the cheat. In this place, and in all the circles of hell, the condemned are punished not by having their acts held before their faces to eternally bemoan or suffer endless Groundhog Days where they are the victims of the same heart-crimes they committed. Rather, they are exposed to metaphoric punishments, exacting their toll in much the same way the consequences of their own actions haunted them while they were still living. In the kingdom of men, the lusty drift aimlessly, guided without sea chart and only the dumb zeal of their organs as helmsman. They can never find the arms of another to call home forever, and so come and go with the wind and the tides looking eagerly for land through their telescope. But for whatever cruel and secret missive written by a Commodore they do not understand and cannot mutiny away, they never drop anchor. So too, in the second circle, do they find their souls angrily blown about by a violent storm. Never finding stability or foundation or peace anymore than they could find a spouse with which to carry out Genesis 1:28. We think alot about the second circle when we listen to Inferno.
It's a seductive record, one that catches you looking from across the gallery and is warmed by the attention. It doesn't run or shout so much as it slinks and coos its way not into your heart, but into your sweating back with its seething scarlet nails. There's nothing wholesome about it. Though you enjoy it instinctively, you can't help but feel like it's a little dirty. It has the sound of the darkness in a strange room where a familiar activity is about to take place - noises echoing and disturbing without a visual reference, like unfamiliar beltbuckles falling unseen onto unfamiliar floors.
The songwriting template that Balaclavas established in their first release has been honed, sharpened and intensified. Though they were already crafting some of the most unclassifiable and incomparable music in town, in this release we find them to be submariners at even greater depths. The bass is massive and formless, pendulating back and forth with such heavy subsonics that it sounds as if it should be bumping out of the trunk of a chopped 300M instead of cornering you in a dark parking garage of indie disquiet. It's the amorphous wrapper around what is still the most distinctive rock sound in the 713, 281 or 832 for that matter. The drums keep a sort of a time but are far more accentual than backbeat. The guitar is often punctuation to the vocals, a cranky and craggy friend that alone carries the sins of the melodies along in a cave lit by only a single candle. The vocals are the ghost of a fallen man, but one who knows it could have been much worse.
Even when these four relatively simple instruments momentarily lock into a groove together, such as in the refrain for "Ashes," the effect is a complex bouquet and more generally a reminder that, for most of the time, you simply can't believe these individual elements are happening in the same song at the same time and working so brilliantly together. Balaclavas, we would imagine, are easy for some to dismiss as just too weird for their taste. We can't really begrudge anyone who doesn't connect with what they're doing, because, frankly, we've never heard anything like it either. But it has most certainly sauntered up to the right sucker at the bar, because we're taking it home with us tonight, even though we shouldn't. We hope when we die, it'll be playing in the second circle. Highly Recommended.
Yelle (House Of Blues) The fact that Yelle is kind of like the French version of mid-90's novelty-pop queen, Gillette, automatically launches her into the undesirable designation of "guilty pleasure." In fact, when I found a promo copy of her album for five bucks earlier this year, I figured it was perfectly priced considering my level of interest, and though I snapped it up, I then just as quickly hid it from my fellow record shopping companions, hoping they wouldn't notice. It's not that I necessarily care what they think, I just didn't want to get any shit from some folk/prog dork buying a Mellow Candle record, or some hardcore brat sneering at me while clutching a Cryptic Slaughter slab under her arm. Totally OOP, dude. Well, of course, I was then faced with the inevitable interrogation, "What'd you get, DL?" I sheepishly popped the CD into the player, yes I'm that old-fashioned, and I brace myself to be slightly embarrassed. But as it turned out, that Yelle record had many more good tracks than I expected, and everyone was actually into it, even the snobs. The record, entitled "Pop Up," is much more memorable than you'd expect for an artist played on "The Hills" or one that advertises for Reebok. There is the expected mix of 80's Pop, with the current dance music that relies so heavily on it, infused with sophisticated melodies worthy of a really good, obscure Belgian Post-Punk record. This is all topped off by some really tacky but wonderful rapping in French, with the kind of pacing that's ruled since "Rapture." Ticket price and venue aside, I would like to see if Yelle's live show is as surprising as her debut album.
Bible Of The Devil | Blood Of The Sun | Broadcast Sea (The Lounge) Man, a lot of this modern metal is really wearing on me. Some of these bands just don't rock as much as I want them to. Wasn't that the whole point of metal's resurgence in popularity? That some of it actually rocked this time? With a name like Bible Of The Devil, you had better be fucking brutal. Ironically, Broadcast Sea rocks more than the other two bands, and I wouldn't really consider them metal. Actually, there's nothing ironic about that at all. And what's with "ladies over 21 get in for free?" Come on, Dallas, I think you can do better than that. Let's not embarrass ourselves in front of guests.
Jeff Hukill is a North Texas visual artist and songwriter who's been painting professionally since 1975. Mr. Hukill was kind enough to answer some hard-hitting art questions for our first edition of WeShotJr: Greatness.
Richardson Heights: What first inspired you to paint?
Jeff Hukill: A deep inner connection to the beauty, wonder and adventure of life as a young boy. My inspiration to actually pick up a brush started in the early 60's when I saw an ad from the Famous Artists School of Westport Connecticut. Norman Rockwell was one of the co-founders. I wanted to inspire others the way I was inspired by what I saw in their work while taking the 2 year course.
RH: Do you remember a specific piece of artwork or artist you saw that made you think, "I can do that." ?
JH:Maxfield Parrish has been a great inspiration to me with the way he captured the imagination and his use of color. I like all of his work.
JH: As mentioned above I took a 2 year correspondence course from FASWC. I taught myself from many sources of information including books but mainly through my own doing.
RH: What is your work environment like? Can you describe what your process is while painting?
JH: My painting environment has changed over the years from listening to many types of music. Now I like it quiet. I paint with acrylics colors because of the fast drying time of the thin transparent glazes of color that I use in my technique.
RH: Your work is obviously very spiritual in nature. Can you explain what drives you?
JH: I believe I explained that in my bio web page but dreams are what I'm interested in -- dreams of a spiritual that move me to create, give meaning to life and share with others, and hopefully inspire others, beauty, color, light, nature, order.
RH: A recurring image in your painting is that of a transparent being, human or otherwise. Can you explain what that signifies?
JH: We are all spiritual in nature. Dreams are as real as this place we call earth. The true nature of our being is Soul which is not the the physical body, mind or emotions. As Soul we use the body, mind and emotions while in this world of matter, energy, space and time. This physical world is not separated from the dream or inner world. As Soul we can live in both worlds. We are in this world but not of this world.
Image courtesy of Jeff Hukill. Be sure to check out all of his work.
Wow. We were pleasantly surprised with the voting for this year's awards-- not only did we receive more votes than ever before, but we also noticed that the quality of the votes submitted this year was higher than in either of the previous years-- most voters voted in most of the categories, and the vast majority of the votes seemed serious and well thought out. So congratulations to everyone in our little community who decided to make their voices heard. As much as we like to be dismissive smart asses around here, we recognize the fact that these awards can be a great way to pay tribute to some of the musicians in the area that are actually producing important and interesting music, and we also recognize that the legitimacy of this whole process has much more to do with your participation than ours. So thanks for that. Below is a list of the winners for every category. We'll be making an announcement concerning our plans for Awards celebrations and the like a bit later this week, but for now, take a look at the wieners:
Best Band: Record Hop Best New Band: Darktown Strutters Best DJ: Schwa Best New DJ: Tommy Boy Best MC/ Hip Hop Artist: Damaged Goods Best Noise/Avant garde: Zanzibar Snails Best Metal (all genres) Akkolyte Best Punk/Hardcore/Grindcore/Garage: Wax Museums Best Folk/experimental folk: Dust Congress Best Indie Pop: Fight Bite/Teenage Cool Kids (tie) Best Solo Artist: Sarah Jaffe Best Local Album or Ep of the Year: Record Hop, s/t Best Local Single of the Year: "Swiss Ex Lover" by Fight Bite Best Vocalist: Daron Beck of Great Tyrant Best Guitarist: Will Kapinos of Jetscreamer Best Bassist: Tommy Atkins of Great Tyrant Best Drummer: Steve Hill Best Instrumentalist that doesn't play one of the above instruments: Megan Carrol of Nouns Group Most Underrated band: Kaboom Best Live Show: Teenage Cool Kids Best Art work: Nevada Hill for a variety of projects Best Sound Guy: Justin Collins of Hailey's Best Promoter/Booking Agency: Parade of Flesh Best Local Spot to Record: Echo Lab Best Dressed: Rival Gang Worst Dressed band: Black Tie Dynasty Worst Band Name: Mom and Black Tie Dynasty (tie) Best Local Music Journalist that isn't Us: Hunter Hauk of Quick, Dallas Morning News Best WSJR Commentator: Anonymous Best Local blog: US! (we set this up so that no one other than us could win) Age When you Realized that D Magazine Covers Local Music Better than the Observer: 22 Best Good Ol' Fashioned Songwriter: Doug Burr Best Venue: Rubber Gloves
Just to let you know, we'll be posting the winners of our 2008 awards a little later this morning, and if you're interested in winning Magnetic Fields tickets, you'll have until noon to do so (scroll down two posts and find out how to win). Now here's a great little pep talk to start your day:
SHOWS OF NOTE THIS WEEK
WED: Monotonix/El Paso Hot Button/Rival Gang (the Lounge) WED: Pattern is Movement/History at Our Disposal/Moth Fight/Florene (Swiss House, 3114 Swiss Ave.) THU: Cat Power (Palladium) FRI: Akimbo/Resigned to Fate/First Curse (The Lounge) SAT: Lords/Children of the Grave/Four Days to Burn (the Lounge) SAT: The Walkmen (House of Blues) SAT: Ryan Adams and the Cardinals (Nokia) SAT: The Roots (Palladium)
Kind of a slow Friday but a very busy Saturday.... all next week will also be very busy around here, so stay tuned. Shows:
FRIDAY
Akkolyte | Vorvadoss | Tiger Fight (The Cavern) A Melissa's Delux Party gone metal, featuring one of state's best live bands in Akkolyte. I'm seriouss too.
Roky Erickson | The Black Angels | Dove Hunter (Granada) Roky Erickson comes back to Dallas for his second tour of duty in the city in less than a year. I remember the last time I saw him in Dallas, he said the exact same thing after every song in the exact same tone: "thank you, thank you. thank you." It was really cute to me for some reason. Anyway, it was a surprisingly strong set for a guy who's been "out of the game" for so long, and if you couldn't catch it last time, I'd recommend this show.
Daniel Francis Doyle | Yellow Fever | Nouns Group (Rubber Gloves) I am going to attempt to describe these bands in a way that the mainstream media might not like, or my opponent bloggers, nor my moderator, SR-- but I want to give you, the American people, some straight talk.
Dan Frankie Doyle is a real Joe Sixpack, or Joe 18-pack, or Joe Alcohol Poisoning. The guy can drink. He can drum almost as well, and his songs are about the concerns of people on Main Street, not Wall Street, dog-gone it. He can't be in a band with other people, heck no! He's too much of a maverick, ya know! He tried once, but he just ruffled too many feathers in his own party.
Sorry, this is kind of tough. I'm second in charge of operations here at We Shot JR, and I just don't know what I'm supposed to do everyday. Oh yeah, talk shit, oops, I mean straight talk about bands and stuff.
YellowFever aren't one of those elitist, intellectual noise groups, they write good ol' fashioned songs that everyone can relate to. Blue collar titles like "Joe Brown" and "Culver City," songs about average Americans and small towns. What's the difference between YellowFever and a pit bull? Skinny Capri Pants!
And Nouns Group. Oh, it's sad, yes they have a special needs lead singer but that doesn't make them any less good than anyone else's band. Like Future President McCain, they don't know how to use the internet because they don't have a Myspace profile. I guess they're just not in touch with the concerns of everyday people like you and me. Anyways, have fun everybody!
White Denim | PVC Street Gang | Kaputter Rock (Pastime Tavern) Could be one of the bigger shows Pastime Tavern has ever seen thanks to the big blog buzz that has recently arisen in regards to Austin's White Denim. Gorilla vs Bear has promoted this show fairly well, and the site also had some nice things to say about locals PVC Street Gang, who play a somewhat intriguing garage meets lo-fi, electro influenced post-punk that ends up sounding like the current big thing amongst the real men Vice Hipster set. Nothing you haven't heard before I'm sure, but the execution is good enough to warrant a listen for sure. And although it isn't saying much, they are easily one of the best bands in Dallas right now... I think they're from Dallas, anyway. Check out the track "Night Terrors," which sort of sounds like Folk Implosion covering a PIL cover of a Homosexuals song. Pretty good.
Lollipop Shoppe (Allgood Cafe) No need to tell you what happens at this long running mod night monthly, because most everyone already knows.
