| living the it list part ii: friday |
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 Is it a triumph or a sad state of affairs when the best venue in North Texas is a modestly sized house in Southeast Denton? The answer to that question probably depends on your perspective and philosophy regarding DIY, underground non-traditional venues, experimental music, and noise, etc. For many casual indie rockers and music fans who already pride themselves on being too cool for the mainstream, these guerilla music movements represent a threatening fringe that might possibly unleash some sort of artistic statement that isn't immediately graspable, or worse, push them closer to the center of the mainstream that they supposedly despise. The threat is usually unfounded, however, because various sects of noise, experimental, and improv usually welcome outsiders with proverbial open arms and are glad to have anyone participate as either observers or contributors to their projects. The whole notion behind freeing up the rigid structures of Western 12-tone, four bar, G to C and so forth practically lends itself to a naturally friendly atmosphere where everyone is invited and nobody is expected to slave away under the tyranny of click tracks, tuners, tasteful tone and perfect pitch. However, these musical safety guards are by no means forbidden in The House of Tinnitus, and out of the handful of shows I've caught at the venue, I've witnessed more diversity in performer and performance than I would probably see if I spent an entire year hanging out in a traditional venue. This isn't to necessarily damn the rock club itself, but I wonder what the harm is in having an establishment that is sympathetic to the endless possibilities of what is considered music all over the world, or at least simply another cool place to catch a show. Another unexpected occurrence in repeat visits to Tinnitus is that I have actually seen relatively few acts that would legitimately be considered "noise", especially by enthusiasts of the genre. I felt like the show on Friday probably came the closest to being an outright noise show, but even then, the whole story was much more nuanced and complicated than that. Truthfully, each act was so different from the next that you would find it difficult to find a blanket genre term for the night, period. SDS (aka Shortwave Death System) started the evening with a fascinating set comprised of manipulating the frequencies of short wave radios and looping them in real time along with prerecorded loops of radio buzz and chatter. Chance was a huge element in this set since you never know what kind of right-wing propoganda, religious fanaticism, and grotesque commercial advertising nuggets are going to tear themselves away from the static and reveal all of their shrieking paranoid glory. Different short wave models were used one at a time, determining what would take shape in the shifting signal blizzard. As chaotic as this sounds, it was a relatively calm, almost soothing set that climaxed with SDS dropping out the signals altogether while staring intensely into the crowd. It was the high point of the act, where SDS became a sort of snake charmer with frequencies in place of serpents, creating deep uncomfortable chasms using pure silence. It was a beautifully jarring ending to a mostly tranquil performance. The least expected performance came from Denton's Brokenizer, who as I mentioned before, includes the man known as Sinevil of the folk and blues trio, Burnt Sienna. I didn't know what to expect from Brokenizer and I was wowed along with many others in the room at the originality of the music, concept, and even instruments. The music was performed on mostly homemade implements along with turntables, strategically damaged compact discs, vinyl and treated vocals. The group, whether or not it was intentional, reflected the aesthetics of homemade innovators such as American composer Harry Partch or freakish electronic minimalists Crash Course in Science, both known for actually making the instruments used in their recorded work. The consistent and slightly distorted beat also had similarities to that group's rhythm. The compact discs and vinyl were cut with scissors and had attached pieces of tape to cause the needles to skip and produce the beats, and the result was a practically danceable arrangement with strange little cog pieces clicking away as accents. I felt privileged to catch what I'm assuming was a rare set, but hopefully will happen again soon. Church of The Apocalypse broke the quirky charm of the evening provided by the first two acts with a numbingly repetitive set of what seemed like the first two notes of a doom metal riff repeating infinitely over a hissing yet subtle feedback undercurrent. The riff originated from a twelve string bass that was then pushed through a factory's worth of pedals, preamps, and other sound molesting devices. The delay, distortion and other effects boxes rendered the music practically unrecognizable as having come from a bass guitar. I overheard a funny conversation that went something to the effect of: "Dude, do you know what a blank model preamp is?" "What?" "And do you know how expensive they are?" "?" "Well, he has two of them!" It's geeky conversations like these that only add to the fun of a live experimental music performance. Church of The Apocalypse took repetition to the point where it almost hurt but the music only gained power and momentum that hung in the air like a black cloud when it was time to pack up the pedals. There was a lot of excitement built up over Goat's performance. At this point, it's late in the evening and the mood and sobriety of the BYOB crowd is starting to unravel. Since Tinnitus is a house, you're often uncomfortably close with complete strangers, sometimes strangers cutting themselves and bleeding all over the carpet. The difference between this and any bloody fight I've witnessed at shows over the years was that this had a certain G.G. Allin self-desctructive charm missing from those violent spectacles I saw at Trees at 16. I honestly thought the blood was fake until I was clued in by a fellow show-goer. Goat produced the most obvious straight-ahead noise that night and their sets are so notorious for their brevity that I saw some people thinking they had missed out because they caught the tail end of the sound check. As soon as the noise assault began, Goat was cheered on by enthusiastic clapping and hollering, the way you'd see an audience encourage a soloist in old jazz clips. The direct support of audience to performer during the set was actually touching and a direct refutation of the theory that noise music is the willful blockade of communication with the audience that more "standard" music provides. And even if that blockade is an attack on said communication, who's to say that this isn't in fact where the art and beauty lies in a given piece or performance? To see a crowd throw fists and cheer this on is confirmation that people do actually enjoy that which is often deemed "unlistenable" or purposefully difficult. Goat's short blast of a set was a thrill to take in, but their speedy explosiveness would give way to an artist that instead chose the slowest possible path to punishment. Thankfully, everyone at Tinnitus was ready to take it. The extreme to which Black Mayonnaise took the basic idea of heavy was ridiculous and I mean that as a compliment. Obviously this is a focused effort, seeking to make music that barely crawls on its own slimy belly. Before commencing, the man behind Black Mayonnaise turned on bright red strobe lights and a smoke machine that made the small living room feel like a nightmarish arena nestled deep within the pit of Hell. He then made the simple combination of distorted bass and drum machine sound like a row of tanks rolling through a wall of sheet metal. The time lapse between sequenced bass drum thud and snare hit stretched for an eternity. Head banging was almost out of the question, and the people attempting to do so could randomly be seen with head thrown back under the nanosecond flash of the strobes and not come down chin to chest until five minutes later. For the duration of the set everyone seemed to be drowning in a floor to ceiling flood of codeine cough syrup while the digital beats sounded more and more alien under the rising bass rumble. Vocals blended in to the cacophonous ooze and the place erupted into rapturous applause when the smoke cleared. Black Mayonnaise won't soon be forgotten by anyone lucky enough to be have been there and it was almost unthinkable that someone perform after them. I didn't really get to experience Blast Beat as much as I wanted to. Visibility was limited and much of their performance is visual as well as physical. The screeching havoc they produced was so loud people were clutching their heads and in one case, covering their ears with duct tape. Fluorescent light bulbs were smashed and by this point the carpet was a salad of blood and glass. They were polite enough to clean up after themselves at least. The group is releasing a split 12" with China's Torturing Nurse on the local Dada Drumming label. I wish more artists would do splits with groups from China if only because it would certainly be more interesting than an Itunes only EP that I'm supposed to give a shit about according to the label spam in my inbox. The dance party began as soon as all the live music was finished. "Fuck tha Police" was a great way to close the evening, and it made me think of the manner in which the uninformed among us view the people who would attend a show like this, namely as stuffy intellectuals who want nothing more than to destroy structure, song-writing and poppy indie rock forever. The benign group of dancers before me seemed more interested in simply having a good time without an ounce of pretense or revolutionary grandstanding. If more venues I went to were nearly as welcoming with crowds nearly as kind and intelligent and artists nearly as free of ego and popularity concerns as those I found in Denton in Friday, then maybe we'd see a day when DFW isn't so haunted by the ghosts of a dying music scene. I'm familiar enough with the empty culture that permeates local music to know the day where such things are the norm will most likely never come. For now, at least there is Tinnitus. (photo by JD Dunn) |
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Defensive Listening |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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9:14 AM is a homophobe. He is also probably a homosexual homophobe. |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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Sr. Peehole has to be said with a latin accent though.
-Kyle B. There |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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But the best name band name of all time has to be SACRIFYX!!!! Have you ever seen the movie "The Gate"? Awethome flick.
-Kyle of the Dead |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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I like Sr. Peehole as well.
-Kyle Hitler |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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WHEN GLASS MEETS FLESH!
That's my new band name. Officially.
-Kyle |
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| jonofdeath says.. |
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Where did the blood come from? I know a lot of people got something else out of the article, but I just can't stop thinking about the blood. |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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Black Flag is so 2007. |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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when will all you assholes learn how to spell?? |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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Black Flag is so 1979. |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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I can put the ball in the hole!!! I can put the ball in the hole!!! I can dribble it too. And.....it's.....orange!
Fuck I hate The N.B.A. I especially hate the way the coaches always wear these ridiculous fucking suits/ties and have these disappointed, borderline-demonic looks on their faces even when their team is up by 100 points.
Same thing for The N.F.L., N.H.L., P.G.A., I.R.A., P.L.O., and N.W.O.
If you support professional sports, that also means you support commercial television, which means you are a fucking idiot bordering on being a fascist. See: Idiocracy. The movie is horrible, but the world that is in the film is on its way unless we get our shit together and get away from all this machismo, neanderthal shit.
You've been warned. Don't get mad at me when some roided-out jock asshole wearing a Mav's shirt beats the living shit out of you for wearing a Black Flag shirt.
-Intensive Glistening |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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your reply brazenly illustrates my point, thank you, Mr. Gay. |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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that is so gay |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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at least DL doesn't write like you fucks.
here is how the first few sentences would read like if he/she did:
"Is it a triumf or a gay state of afairs when the best venue in North Texas is a litle house in Southeast Denton? The answer to that fucking gay ass question probably depends on youre idiotic view and stuff regarding DIY, underground non-traditional venues, experimental music, and noise, etc. For indie rockers and music fans who already pride themselves on being too cool for the gay assed dipshit mainstream, these music movements represent a threatening pointy thing that might possibly unleash some sort of gay artistic statement that isn't immediately grab-able, or worse, push them closer to the center of the gay assed mainstream that they supposedly HATE HATE HATE. |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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the only time anthony johnson calls the cops to buy weed is when he's in SE Denton with josh powell |
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| denton P.D. says.. |
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the only time we go out to S.E. Denton is to buy weed. |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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Sorry. I mean c!ops. |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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Laugh it up bitch, the cops are swinging by. |
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| Denton P.D. says.. |
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we fuckin' love HOT. |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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what a bunch of inbreeds. |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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man people just shut the fuck up...really the only thing that is causing any of this hate is just people that keep the arguments going just everyone shut the fuck up and mind your own business!! its crazy its beacause denton is a small town and has small town gossip this kinda stuff (H.O.T.& DIY) are all over big cities and peopel dont make a huge deal out of it there... peopel need to get a life around here!!! |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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wow, 12:16
if you actually do that, you will be worse off than just a dick.
seriously, what a fucking subhuman concept.
also, the cops don't shut the tinnitus shows down because THEY DON'T HAVE ANY NEIGHBORS! at least not ones that complain. so JUST TRY to shut a show down. I hope you can speak spanish. |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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Anthony Johnson is everything that is wrong with the Mavs and the NBA. We gave up Josh Powell and the very promising Rawle Marshall for this??? Is there a more boring player in the league? Why does winning have to be so boring?? Bring back Nellie!!!!! |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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I'm going to start calling the police on these shows just to be a dick. |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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no mavs talk please. |
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| Defensive Listening says.. |
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quote: "Your skills show it. Stop stating the obvious"
Most of my time is spent going to shows, buying and listening to records, reading pretentious books and magazines etc. That leaves little time for the actual writing. So it's like being in school. You do all your homework and study and very little of the semester is spent writing the big paper. But I wouldn't really know. I'm not a student. Are you? |
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| thomas says.. |
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what a joke. what a joke. i do everything twice cause my mind naturally i do everything twice cause my mind naturally doesnt work right. doesnt work right...
anyways as a wanna be artist,, i would love to play there, i would love to play anywhere, even your moms living room. i think what they are doing is way better than what so many others are doing. most texas music is god awful boring. but most people here were a part of the stoopids that after the religion-fied "9-11" said shit like, fuck them brown irakians. lets just blow all them all to hell (you know, the place honky rednecks that watch tbn and vote republican believe in). thank you to the few venues that are actually trying to help artist that are also trying to do something original. unlike the 99% of texans. i think people here fear a true art culture. i mean there are the few that have there little "scene" bvut no one knows or cares who they are out of the little group of people. those people also hold this area back. we shot jr at least tells you what is going on and they do all they can. there opinions may differ but thats why we have a discussion blog. when you do nothing but post dumbass shit (you should be embarrassed to post) that is just whiney and bitchy, its just a waste of everyones time. piss off or try to progress. or at least dont be a wuss and put your name and link for your shit in when you bitch. |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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ugh. i think the house youre talking about and all those bands are below me because they fucking suck. stop sucking them off and acting like their music has any value or merit in "the music scene". what a joke. |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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ugh. i think the house youre talking about and all those bands are below me because they fucking suck. stop sucking them off and acting like their music has any value or merit in "the music scene". what a joke. |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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"Believe it or not, I spend very little of my time writing."
Your skills show it. Stop stating the obvious. |
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| Josh says.. |
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SR - after coming across another massive post on your front page I thought I'd link you to a tutorial I finally found on how to add Read More links in blogger. Also: Anthony Johnson was dead weight (salary-wise) and opened up a roster spot for someone who'll probably contribute more than 4 points and 2 assists a game. Hopefully they'll snag a valuable big man off waivers. |
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| the spicy sexy says.. |
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dont you people realize it's all august schellenberged yo mamma last night while you cried in the bathroom pantry and ate an entire box of uncooked oatmeal with a little cinnamon sprinkled upon its royal flakyness. just like you. |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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Everything is real life. |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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the mavs traded anthony johnson and all you guys can argue about is the apropriate biblical analogy for DL and whether or not she he has a fine ass? and all the mavs got back was a 2nd round draft pick? are you kidding me? are they going to sign Scottie Pippen or is it Pops Mensah Bonsu's time to shine? |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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DL is apocryphal. She is "secret, not approved for public reading," from Gk. apokryphos "hidden, obscure," from apo- "away" (see apo-) + kryptein "to hide." Properly plural (the single would be Apocryphon), but commonly treated as a collective sing. Apocryphal "of doubtful authenticity" is from 1590.
Anonymous and non-canonical. What do the catholics here have to say about this? Especially seeing as DL is obviously one hot feminina with an ass that's hot to trot? |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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This blog is like real life.
Everyone talking shit, all the time. I mean, WOW. It's like I'm hanging out in Denton. |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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defensive listening=henry rollins. mystery solved. |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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I don't know. Maybe they just want more facts and less opinions. I honestly think that a lot of people have nothing better to do than to sit around and talk shit on their computers. Luckily there are places like The H.O.T. though which give us culture and something else to do with our lives than.......well.....what i'm doing right now. But who is to say that this isn't living? Maybe this is where human beings are supposed to be at this point in our evolution, sitting in chairs and exercising(hopefully) our minds instead of our bodies until one day we just won't need our bodies anymore. Just kidding. I know that I am quite a bored individual most of the time.
-dipshit |
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| Defensive Listening says.. |
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No problem. I don't mind at all. I just wonder why people keep talking about "journalists" on this music blog. |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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I like to fuck with you is all. I actually enjoy we shot jr quite a bit. I think that the article about The H.O.T. is good; good for the kids around Denton/Ft. Worth/Dallas. I have anger management problems. I'm trying really hard to be a nicer person. I'm sorry if I offended you in any way. Keep up the good work! And more than anything, don't let assholes like me get your spirits down. Keep doing what you're doing because it is good for the community and for our generation as well. Again, I truly apologize. I hate being born with the brain that I have, but i'm trying to do the best with what i've got. I'm sorry, anonymous journalist.
- anonymous dipshit |
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| Defensive Listening says.. |
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quote: "You just said you'd rather be a camera than a human being. You'd rather record life(and possibly someday bank on it i'm sure) than live it. Maybe if you kill yourself you'll be reincarnated as a Sony digital camcorder. Or someone who doesn't spent every minute of their days writing about life instead of living it. You lose."
I said "easier". It was a joke about how I'd rather be a camera because then life would be easier-no worrying about jobs, health insurance, STD's etc. You took that joke pretty seriously. The fact that I have to explain this to you kind of lets me know what I'm dealing with here. Believe it or not, I spend very little of my time writing. I'm glad you're willing to spend so much of your time reading that writing and thinking of clever ways to respond. Thanks. |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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I like the word dipshit. I wonder where it originated from? |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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I think 7:32 P.M. made it quite obvious that defensive listening is a girl. Way to go, dipshit.
Easier.....better.....what's the difference? |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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Yeah DL just lets everything pass him by ... never goes to really cool shows or anything ... |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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DL said EASIER, not BETTER, you dipshit. |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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You just said you'd rather be a camera than a human being. You'd rather record life(and possibly someday bank on it i'm sure) than live it. Maybe if you kill yourself you'll be reincarnated as a Sony digital camcorder. Or someone who doesn't spent every minute of their days writing about life instead of living it. You lose. |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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I think you guys should chill out and think about what Robert Pollard once sang
"we'd rather throw parties than stones, we'd rather break bridges than bones" |
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| Defensive Listening says.. |
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quote: "Me: GODDAMNIT DEFENSIVE LISTENING! WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU KNOW ABOUT "MOST PEOPLE", YOU ARROGANT PIECE OF SHIT! I, AND OVER A DOZEN PEOPLE I'VE TALKED TO IN THE LAST COUPLE DAYS WE'RE ANYTHING BUT DISMISSIVE ABOUT THIS SHOW. THEY ALL FUCKING LOVED IT? WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU KNOW ABOUT ME? YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT ME OR MY FRIENDS. YOU DON'T EVEN HANG OUT AT EVENTS LIKE THE H.O.T. SHOW. YOU JUST SIT THERE WITH A FUCKING PEN AND PAPER IN YOUR BRAIN JUST FUCKING CRITIQUING EVERYTHING AROUND YOU! ARE YOU A HUMAN BEING OR A GODDAMN CAMERA?!!
Sorry, but enough is e-fucking-nough.
Fuck."
Good point. You're right. I apologize. I should have said "many people that I know". I didn't say I knew you or your friends. I was talking about myself and I was talking about my friends. You're talking about people that actually went to the show. I'm talking about people who won't even go in the first place. Unfortunately, I am a human being. Life as a camera would be much easier. Thanks for reading. |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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why do you bother to read the blog if this bothers you so much?
isn't there a publication out there that fits your needs better?
I think that two guys deliberately writing under pseudonyms is inherently confrontational to a certain extent. and nothing is getting "thrown in your face". if anything, you are thowing it in your OWN face. you read the blog intentionally, you consented to reading what was written.
If you don't agree with the writing or anything else on this blog, that's ok, of course. but anger and insults hardly seems like an appropriate response to something that probably doesn't have anything to do with you. |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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"FUCK YOU!" seems to make more of an inpression than "Fuck you!". So FUCK YOU! |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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That's great defensive person! When someone agrees with you, then it's a good point. Obviously. You're so full of shit. And you seem to enjoy throwing it in everyone's faces. Fuck you, bitch. |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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And I meant to say: "THEY ALL FUCKING LOVED IT!"
not: "THEY ALL FUCKING LOVED IT?"
THAT SHOW WAS FUN! THE HOUSE OF TINNITUS IS FUN! JOURNALISTS CAN EAT A BOWL OF SHIT AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED THOUGH. |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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Defensive Listening: "Most people are dismissive of shows like this. I keep that in mind while writing."
Me: GODDAMNIT DEFENSIVE LISTENING! WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU KNOW ABOUT "MOST PEOPLE", YOU ARROGANT PIECE OF SHIT! I, AND OVER A DOZEN PEOPLE I'VE TALKED TO IN THE LAST COUPLE DAYS WE'RE ANYTHING BUT DISMISSIVE ABOUT THIS SHOW. THEY ALL FUCKING LOVED IT? WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU KNOW ABOUT ME? YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT ME OR MY FRIENDS. YOU DON'T EVEN HANG OUT AT EVENTS LIKE THE H.O.T. SHOW. YOU JUST SIT THERE WITH A FUCKING PEN AND PAPER IN YOUR BRAIN JUST FUCKING CRITIQUING EVERYTHING AROUND YOU! ARE YOU A HUMAN BEING OR A GODDAMN CAMERA?!!
Sorry, but enough is e-fucking-nough.
Fuck. |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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actually, from my limited collegiate experience with sentence to paragraph structure, I'd say that DL has a very decent writing style. |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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6:05 said: "isn't that the point of good journalism though? To cause debate?"
I can answer that. No. The point of good journalism is to be INFORMATIVE. Any journalist who wants people to debate has problems/wants to start fights in my opinion. |
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| Defensive Listening says.. |
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7:32- quote: "DL wasn't being confrontational. She wasn't implying that there is harm involved in what goes on at HOT. She was asking whether it was a sad state of affairs because you would think that a big ol metroplex like ours would have some fancier digs from which to feature the types of noises that are heard at HOT--i.e., whether it was a sad state of affairs for the music entertainment environment of DFWd. It's great if HOT fills a void, but is there a void in the first place, and if so, why?"
That's a good point. I wish I didn't have to ask. In many other places (even smaller cities) you don't have to validate everything the way you do here because people are usually more informed and accepting of things outside of their narrow minded music radar. I can't believe how much time I spend trying to explain why it's "okay" for something to be different from what someone is used to, to many intelligent music fans and gifted musicians around here. Even my own good friends, that I respect very much as people, artists etc. can be incredibly closed minded. It shocks me on a regular basis. It sucks to have to explain to people that this or that isn't going to hurt them. It's okay for it to exist whether you understand it or not. You might even enjoy it or have fun if you actually tried it. And it sucks to have to occasionally sound like an elementary school teacher. Unfortunately, this attitude is based on repeated personal encounters with the exact type of behavior that would cause me to do so. |
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| Defensive Listening says.. |
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quote: "i have to agree that defensive listening's stuff tends to be very confrontational for no real reason. again it's a house in denton that puts on shows. not the first time and won't be the last when the landlord inevitably nips that in the bud. but every time anyone points out that dl's articles are long or poorly written or testy they get their asses chewed."
You're right. I guess I should say thank you and be polite when I get my ass chewed by people. |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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DL wasn't being confrontational. She wasn't implying that there is harm involved in what goes on at HOT. She was asking whether it was a sad state of affairs because you would think that a big ol metroplex like ours would have some fancier digs from which to feature the types of noises that are heard at HOT--i.e., whether it was a sad state of affairs for the music entertainment environment of DFWd. It's great if HOT fills a void, but is there a void in the first place, and if so, why? |
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| Defensive Listening says.. |
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quote: "Defensive Listening. You started this article in a very strange way. You said: "Is it a triumph or a sad state of affairs when the best venue in North Texas is a modestly sized house in Southeast Denton?" Are you going out of your way to get people to debate on here? Sometimes it seems like you, Defensive Listening, and Stoned Ranger, are trying to get people to argue on here, no matter how much praise you give to an act or venue."
Do you honestly think we have to encourage people to argue? I know how I feel about the opening question but I also understand that a lot of people might not agree with me so I asked. Most people are dismissive of shows like this. I keep that in mind while writing.
quote: "I hope i'm wrong, and I very well might be. But this is the impression that I get from We Shot Jr sometimes."
That's fine. We obviously don't shy away from arguments.
quote: "You know, there is absolutely NO HARM in what The House of Tinnitus are doing."
I agree. That's part of my point.
quote: " I'm suprised that you would even ask people to ever even have to contemplate something like that, Defensive."
I ask people to contemplate it since there are many people who act like this culture or type of show is some sort of threat to them or beneath them.
quote: "I mean, is there harm in having a house party? Aside from some drunk dude beating someone up or some drunk chick barfing all over you?"
No. I like drunk chicks barfing on me. I'm usually the one holding their hair back when they're kneeling in front of the toilet.
quote: " I don't understand. Do you want people to debate over whether or not they should hang out with their friends or not?"
No, that's not what I want.
quote: "I don't know if that's what you're implying by writing this article, but......exactly what is it you're implying?"
I wrote 1,762 words worth of what I'm implying. The rest is pretty much up to you.
quote: "I think you mean well, man(if you're a man. You have for some reason chosen to remain completely anonymous to me and most everyone else on here). I just think your writing urges argument just for the sake of argument sometimes."
I don't always mean well but thanks. What does it matter if I'm a man or not? I've chosen to remain completely anonymous to you? Are you familiar with this website? I'm sorry I've never introduced myself to you...Mr...Ms...Anonymous or confused.
quote: "I am very glad that you do this though, because The House of Tinnitus needs much praise. It is a truly great place to hang out and have a fun night after a long day of grueling work."
Thanks. |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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gets their asses chewed? when and where? if he can't write he sure can't chew on my precious ass |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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isn't that the point of good journalism though? To cause debate? |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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i have to agree that defensive listening's stuff tends to be very confrontational for no real reason. again it's a house in denton that puts on shows. not the first time and won't be the last when the landlord inevitably nips that in the bud. but every time anyone points out that dl's articles are long or poorly written or testy they get their asses chewed. |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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yeah because it was that good!!! |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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You really wrote all that? About a show in a house? That was a lot of words. |
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| am says.. |
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President Bush: “You and I serve our country in a time of great consequence. During this session of Congress, we have the duty to reform domestic programs vital to our country; we have the opportunity to save millions of lives abroad from a terrible disease. We will work for a prosperity that is broadly shared, we will go to H.O.T. And we will answer every danger and every enemy that threatens the American people. “ (Applause) |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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SR your rants about the dallas observer are getting really passé, especially since you used to write for them. |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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Whatever. Nevertheless, The House of Tinnitus RUUUUUULES!!!!!! |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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because they fucking suck!!!! |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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yeah, read that roots article and then the midlake one and then the grizzly bear one. None of those bands ever get mentioned here. |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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4:21 What else is in the Observer handbook? I need to know because I want to write for them. |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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I think that DL's posts are often the highlight on this blog. DL does a fine job of explaining the reasoning to enjoy the outcast music that we listen to for the uninitiated that only hear "toaster banging". |
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| stonedranger says.. |
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why don't you go grab this week's observer and see if you feel the same way. I believe theres an article about "shakin' booty" at the Roots show. |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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"For now, at least there is Tinnitus."
If this isn't straight out of the Observer handbook of how to write a review I don't know what is. |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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It's because Offensive Listener does NOT KNOW HOW TO WRITE that people are confused, bored and annoyed after he/she posts something. |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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3:35.. it's obvious that you're confused. |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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...another reason why never to leave Denton. -g |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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BLACK MAYONNAISE!!!!!!! |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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That was Sinevil's best performance yet away from the rock arena. Aaron Brent(Sinevil) is such a talented individual, and a really friendly guy as well. I had a wonderful time!
Thank you House of Tinnitus!
-Kyle |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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Defensive Listening. You started this article in a very strange way. You said: "Is it a triumph or a sad state of affairs when the best venue in North Texas is a modestly sized house in Southeast Denton?" Are you going out of your way to get people to debate on here? Sometimes it seems like you, Defensive Listening, and Stoned Ranger, are trying to get people to argue on here, no matter how much praise you give to an act or venue.
I hope i'm wrong, and I very well might be. But this is the impression that I get from We Shot Jr sometimes.
You know, there is absolutely NO HARM in what The House of Tinnitus are doing. I'm suprised that you would even ask people to ever even have to contemplate something like that, Defensive. I mean, is there harm in having a house party? Aside from some drunk dude beating someone up or some drunk chick barfing all over you? I don't understand. Do you want people to debate over whether or not they should hang out with their friends or not? I don't know if that's what you're implying by writing this article, but......exactly what is it you're implying?
I think you mean well, man(if you're a man. You have for some reason chosen to remain completely anonymous to me and most everyone else on here). I just think your writing urges argument just for the sake of argument sometimes.
I am very glad that you do this though, because The House of Tinnitus needs much praise. It is a truly great place to hang out and have a fun night after a long day of grueling work.
Sincerely, Confused |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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whoops forgot to sign my name..
liz-
ps.i'm officially out of the times. i like every thing the house is doing though. also,stonedranger thanks for writing about our music. |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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sinevil-- you all should learn from his quiet genius.this guy only holds back so as not to embarrass you |
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| M-. says.. |
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I second that, mc... bummed I missed this, but glad it happened. |
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| mc says.. |
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The same to Rob & Amelia of course! |
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| mc says.. |
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Thank you, DL. You are a huge asset to the arts in this often unbearable metroplex. |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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It is a triumph. The House of Tinnitius is wonderful not only because is it a great place to go where you KNOW(which is a nice feeling) you will see at least a few or a couple dozen of your good friends, but on top of that they almost always have an interesting if not completely enthralling act or 2 or 5 for your aural and visual and whatever other pleasures. And the people who run The House of Tinnitus, Rob and Amelia, are two of the kindest people I have ever met(and 2 of the most well knowledged in music, particularly noise/experimental....but they also have the entire King Crimson catalogue which to me is FUCKING AWESOME!)
Thank you Rob and Amelia for injecting a good amount of culture into Denton. You guys are great!
-Kyle |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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cliff burtons notes |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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no it not |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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wait, is this post about the yellow house? |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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Other DIY Denton houses: 715 PANHANDLE - fun punk house parties www.myspace.com/715panhandle 1413 LINDEN - posi punk/"screamo" related house parties http://www.myspace.com/xtremedudesmanor - punk/harcore shows/ house |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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it was indeed a fucking great time!! |
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| Anonymous says.. |
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Thank You, what a great article/review! |
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